I got a modern band in Dakota and a cord band in black to go on a vintage black hat I found at an antique store. Really love the contrasting look of the Dakota and it's so soft. Since it's not a PKG hat, I did my best to measure, and it's a little short, so I'm going to try and punch another hole in it to make it work. If it doesn't, I'll probably try buying the medium length, because I love the way it looks. The cord band is ok, it's a little fiddly to get it knotted and look good. But love the modern one!